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  NUKES: THE ULTIMATE WEAPON OF TERROR

  by You Know in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  initially this post was a response to a question by a poster about the likelihood of an atomic weapon being detonated in the near future.

  in order to preserve this topic i have moved it to this forum.. __________________________________________________________________ .

  history is at a great turning point.

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  Believe it or not, I AGREE with some of the possibilities you proposed. If a predisposed individual terrorist acquired a nuclear device and detonated it in a large metropolitan city, anywhere in the world, the result would be monumental shock!

  The world would in fact stand still again, as all media stops and focuses all of its attention on yet another disaster. All available radio and tv would broadcast reports and updates 24/7, like they did on 9/11.

  I guess the question is, would the governments of this world allow a retaliation of similar proportions? Who or what organization would/should be the target? Once a massive amount of "man-made" destruction has occured, the tendency of most humans is to prevent a reoccurrance at all costs.

  In order to punish "a" terrorist, or "terrorists", would anyone permit the senseless destruction of hundreds of thousands of other innocent lives? As long as a terrorist can "mingle" with the population, he is safe. As long as criminals, terrorists, warlords, or mercenaries mingle with people, they are safe from such action.

  Now, as you purport, suppose a government (INDIA/PAKISTAN) launches a nuclear weapon? Would the rest of the world "plunge" right in and escalate? I don't honestly believe that for a minute. The world would in fact "slam" the brakes on immediately.

  People desire life and happiness. Now, I caution "bible-thumpers" of all kinds because you tend to exhibit the same "hysteria" occultists display. Occultists, astrologists, card-readers, mediums, and their followers are "addicted" to SECRET KNOWLEDGE OF THE FUTUE.

  So are religionists. The occultists believe magic and the supernatural are the gateways to this knowledge and religionists rely on interpreting "signs" through the bible and world events. Both are addictions when measured scientifically. The dangers of these addictions are "false sense of reaity","delusion","paranoia","nervous anxieties","depression" and a host of others. In addition to the physical dangers, are the economic and social dangers of "living" in another dimension, while time continues moving forward.

  It certainly cannot be physcically, emotionally, socially, economically healthy to be preoccupied with "doom, gloom and disaster", can it? Perhaps, if you convert (no pun intended) your preoccupation into a business, you might become rich from the curiosity and devotion of your peers. Then, it might make sense in a "hidden" way. "John Edwards" of "Crossing Over" is a current example of such well paid buffoonery.

  Fear is an improper use of the imaginaiton. We all fear of death and the unknown. However, to allow fear to become our dominant emotion, preoccupation would make us vulnerable to predators.
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  Most hated Bible stories....

  by PopeOfEruke in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  years ago, i had a pet-hate bible story, and it was this one story that actually started me on the path to freedom from the borg-org.. it was the story of lot when he was living in sodom and the 2 angels visited (dressed like men of course).

  and the crowd of sodomites were yelling "send out the visitors so we can bonk them senseless".

  remember?.

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  Boy, it's funny. For years, many of us literally managed our daily lives and planned our futures based on these stories. Can you believe it?

  I totally understand why so many professionals ignore these accounts and simply plan life as logically as possible, and focus on resources, "acquiring resources, conserving resources, implementing resources". Life is an exercise in management.

  If we could only turn back the clocks and start over again, huh?
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  So, Are They 'Unfaithful and Stupid'?

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the march 15 watchtower's title is "good leadership,.

  where can you find it?".

  ok, get out the barf bag and ginger ale - you know where.

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  I agree. I read it yesterday, and thought it might lead somewhere, since the opening paragraphs and one of the sub-headings mentioned "Christ, Our Leader". Then, by the 10th or 12th paragraph, we were back to showing that "Christ" was our leader by OBEDIENTLY following the "faithful" slave again, and more of the 1914 nonsense.

  Very typical.
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  Did we just kill Bin Laden?

  by freeman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is a story on the news wire services to the effect that the american forces have killed some top leadership personnel in bin ladens terror network.

  a contact and friend of mine that works for one of those nice 3 letter organizations said the guys were high-five-ing all over the place last night.

  he said it was in fact his agency that pulled the trigger via remote control and "placed a hell-fire in the middle of the bastards".

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  Remember what happened to this man when the "people" had finally had enough?

  Well, this might refresh a few memories....

  Once mass hysteria and mob rule go into effect, things get very ulgy!
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  What is Jehovah's Will Today?

  by SexyTeen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a quick question: what is jehovah's will today and who is doing it?

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  How many teenagers write or sound like SEXYTEEN? Give it up. The jig is up.
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  SEX, LIES, DEMONS, & APOSTASY

  by You Know in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  the issue is as old as eden itself, that being: does god have the right to tell us what to do?

  that core question, more than anything else, defines what jehovahs witnesses are about, in that we are outspoken advocates and supporters of jehovahs right as sovereign to require obedience from his creatures.

  the flip side of that is, of course, rebellion against god, which is expressed in numerous ways and on all levels of society.

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  AChristian:

  I am sorry. Your current explanation is questionable and improbable.

  You stated:
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  It doesn't seem all that tough to me. Romans 3:23 defines sin as "falling short of the glory of God." That being the case, to create someone "sinful" all God had to do was create someone less righteous than Himself. Now, since God is perfectly righteous, it would not have been possible to create someone more righteous than Himself. But it would have been quite easy for Him to create someone less righteous than Himself. So far as your, "How could God have conceived the details ... since He was not human?" question, come on now! What kind of question is that? Have you ever made a sandwich? How did you conceive the details? You are not a sandwich.

  Since I stated in an earlier post that we would presume the BIBLE is the tool provided by the "source" of all existence, I will accomodate your scriptural references. Stop for a second and re-examine your inference that it would not be "possible" for GOD to create anyone more righteous than himself. Why? If GOD, whom the scriptures claim at 1Timothy1:17, "the king of the universe is incorruptible", how could he create anything less? He is perfect righteousness. How does imperfection come from perfection? It is illogical. If he created imperfection he is capable of imperfection, hence not necessarily perfect, yet all powerful. For example, although I am very imperfect, I do possess the ability to "make" things from other matter and substances. If I apply myself, I can almost reduce any flaw to microscopic size. Is that what God did? If so, GOD is a humanoid existing in another form or dimension?
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  The Bible tells us that God is "incorruptible." That means He is not able to do what is wrong. The Bible tells us that we are "corruptible." That means that we are able to do wrong. Thus we are less righteous than God. And that makes us "sinful." God created a standard. Anyone less righteous than Himself He would consider to be "sinful." "Conceiving the details" of such a standard does not seem very difficult to me.

  If he is NOT able to do wrong, how did he conceive "imperfection" in order to create it and bestow it upon humans? A perfect mind cannot function in any other way, other than true 100% perfection at all times. Otherwise, it is NOT perfect. How were we "made" sinful by a perfect GOD who is incorruptible? Why would a perfect GOD make anything less than perfect in the first place? If GOD was alone (as BIBLE indicates) and perfect in Himself, lacking nothing, why did he exercise creative power? If LOVE is the answer, then is it "LOVING" to create imperfection knowing in advance of the consequences? The love is therefore NOT perfect love.
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  What is Jehovah's Will Today?

  by SexyTeen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a quick question: what is jehovah's will today and who is doing it?

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  Utopian Reformist

  I don't think anyone can answer that question. It is personal and you must answer it for yourself. I suggest finding the answer through education, research, study, meditation.
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  The mormons vs the jw?

  by Nicolas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw a report on tv about the church of jesus chrisht of latter day saint and they have a lot in common with the jw.

  they go from door to door and as the jw, they believe that they are here to save the world.

  do you think that this church will become more popular while the watchtower is losing his popularity?

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  SusanHere:

  I am not actively involved with the JW's or Mormons. But, irregardless of the apparent benefits provided with membership in either group, there are certain necessary cautions.

  Both groups exhibit a DEGREE of cult-like behavior. Both groups have strict control of their memberships and institute organizational policies that require adherence.

  Basically, one does not need to join a religion to appreciate standards. There are over 66,000 institutions of higher learning in the US that offer a variety of courses, seminars, workshops in health and health related topics. A well rounded, balanced education could also lead to exceptional health, if practiced with moderation and discipline.

  I do not attack individual mormons, however, I attack the NOTION that somehow either mormons or JW's received their ability to practice special standards from their membership.
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  The mormons vs the jw?

  by Nicolas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw a report on tv about the church of jesus chrisht of latter day saint and they have a lot in common with the jw.

  they go from door to door and as the jw, they believe that they are here to save the world.

  do you think that this church will become more popular while the watchtower is losing his popularity?

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  Utopian Reformist

  "SusanHere" is arriving closer and closer to a defensive posture regarding the mormon religion. In a few minutes, she will begin to sound like JW trolls who rant and rave about the many wonderful characteristics displayed by individual members, and the many wonderful programs in place that propogate good in the earth.

  It is true. There are many Mormons and JW's who are sincere, help people, believe they are responsible to a higher authority and must SERVE others. We are all enriched as a society when people become civic minded and responsible and strive for higher standards.

  I believe the "veritas profundi" is in the acknowledgment of the actual source and motivation inspiring the achievement of these standards and good deeds. JW's will say it's the BIBLE, thorough the WTBS and Mormons will say it's the BOOK of Mormon and their Church.

  I say STOP. Imagine a planet without religion, can you? Would humans recognize the differences between "good & evil", "cause & effect" "order & disorder"? I believe that all humans long for peace, love, happiness, despite religion. Do you think atheists LOVE crime and humnger? It is amazing how much humans can cooperate, collaborate, accomplish together when religion is out of the picture.
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  SEX, LIES, DEMONS, & APOSTASY

  by You Know in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  the issue is as old as eden itself, that being: does god have the right to tell us what to do?

  that core question, more than anything else, defines what jehovahs witnesses are about, in that we are outspoken advocates and supporters of jehovahs right as sovereign to require obedience from his creatures.

  the flip side of that is, of course, rebellion against god, which is expressed in numerous ways and on all levels of society.

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  AChristian:

  You said:

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  Nope. Our "sinful" nature is simply that we, unlike God, have the ability to act unrighteously if we choose. That is also our "free" nature.
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  How did God create a "concept/freedom/nature" in humans that he did NOT possess for himself? Could God possess a sinful nature? If not, how did he conceive the details or composition of what a sinful nature is, and how it functions in the human body, since he was not HUMAN? Aren't we told that God saw everything that he had made, and look it was GOOD? Why did God "contaminate" his own good works to create an unknown variable and introduce it to his creatures? Some logic please.